Orbis Joint Committee
MINUTES of a meeting of the Orbis Joint
Committee held at via Microsoft Teams on 16 October 2020.
++ The Members were not present in person, but
took the decisions remotely ++
PRESENT Councillors
Nick Bennett and Bob Standley (both East Sussex
County Council); Zully Grant-Duff and Mel Few (both Surrey
County Council); and Daniel Yates and David Gibson
(Chair) (both Brighton & Hove City Council)
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Apologies for
absence
1.1 There
were no apologies for absence.
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2
Declarations
of interest
2.1 There
were no apologies for absence.
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3
Minutes of
the previous meeting - 28 May 2020
3.1 The
Minutes of the previous meeting were agreed as a correct
record.
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Orbis Budget
Monitoring Report
4.1 The
Committee considered a report by Nigel Manvell (Deputy Chief
Finance Officer Brighton & Hove City Council), Kevin Foster
(Chief Operating Officer East Sussex County Council), Leigh
Whitehouse (Executive Director of Resources Surrey County Council)
which highlighted:
- The Quarter 1 position, previously reported to
the three partner authorities, which shows a £965k overspend,
in part due to pausing of planned restructures during the
pandemic
- Past performance in over-delivery of savings,
with 2020/21 being year 2 of a three year plan
- Targeting of support to IT and Agile programmes,
to enable staff to work flexibly during the pandemic, and
supporting suppliers and their payments, and ensuring payroll
continues to operate
- Some targets had been set at an ambitious level,
based on traded services and process automation, neither of which
have been achievable during the pandemic
- Surrey and East Sussex have major financial
system replacement programmes under way, which are a large factor
in delivery of future efficiencies and savings
4.2 The
Committee asked questions about:
- Whether Business Operations savings targets are
achievable
- Spend on Agency staff, and the patterns across
the authorities
- Traded services
- Increased expenditure on staff during the
pandemic, and whether that could be set against Government Covid-19
related funds
- Staffing cost figures shown in table
2
4.3 Officers
responded
- Business Services is developing proposals to
meet its savings target, with stricter control on recruitment and
strategic oversight of vacancies. Further savings may come with
service implications: any options and proposals will be developed
together with the potential impacts, and be presented to the
Committee before any determination by each partner authority.
The new finance systems are due to come online in 2022/23 and
2023/24.
- Spending on agency staff is being managed down,
with a reduction on spend to cover vacancies. The remaining
area of spend is mainly project-based to cover increased demand,
much of it IT related with niche and specialist staff.
Monthly figures are provided to the officer team to monitor and
challenge the position, and Orbis is not an outlier.
- Focus has been on serving the three partner
authorities rather than expanding traded services, with the
re-procurement of the finance systems as a factor, as it is an
intensive process. There would be a risk of focus on the
traded service impacting on delivery of the change programme.
The correct pricing structure, to ensure the balance of risk, would
need to be assessed. There is also a risk under-performing
and impacting on the quality of the service provided and exposure
to claims. The service is looking to a future growth agenda with
longer term gains rather than short term activity.
- The Government’s Covid-19 funding did not
match the expenditure, but the Finance Teams are overseeing that
transactions are coded correctly to ensure that all claims are
accurate.
- Staffing costs show an impact of the pandemic,
with increased agency spend during the quarter which will not occur
in future quarters. The spend profile needs analysis and can
be affected by vacancy rates, and finance managers meet regularly
with budget holders. Quarter 1 saw unusual patterns of spend, with
staff covering colleagues who were isolating and savings
initiatives being put on pause.
4.4 The
Committee RESOLVED to (1) note the report; and
(2) agree to consider proposals for
any future savings, ahead of them being presented to partner
authorities.
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Orbis
Performance Monitoring
5.1 The
Committee considered a report by Nigel Manvell (Deputy Chief
Finance Officer Brighton & Hove City Council), Kevin Foster
(Chief Operating Officer East Sussex County Council), Leigh
Whitehouse (Executive Director of Resources Surrey County Council),
which highlighted:
- The narrative from each partner on the impact of
Covid-19
- Staffing levels including agency
spend
- The RAG report on progress with
savings
5.2 The
Committee asked questions about:
- Quantification of performance measures such as
customer service levels, or whether activity has led to a specific
result or contributed to other targets such as savings
- Number of Internal Audit “draft
reports”
5.3 Officers
responded:
- The different authorities collect data in
different ways so it is hard to collate a matching set of data for
presentation. Each authority conducts surveys, but it is hard
to undertake a survey across all three partners. Work is
under way to develop measurable outcomes.
- The Internal Audit team had been carrying a
number of vacancies, and provided advice on the risks presented by
changing working practices in response to the pandemic (such as
increased remote working). A revised Audit Plan will be
presented to the Audit Committee in November.
5.4 The
Committee RESOLVED to (1) note the Orbis service performance
information presented;
(2) advise that service performance information
should continue to be presented in the format shown in Section 2
and Annexe 1;
(3) advise that there are no
additional/alternative performance measures that should be
included;
(4) confirm that the People insight data
presented in section 3 is still relevant/helpful; and
(5) agree the proposal for Internal Audit as the
focus of the next service spotlight performance review.
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Service
Spotlight - Business Operations
6.1 The
Committee considered a report by Nigel Manvell (Deputy Chief
Finance Officer Brighton & Hove City Council), Kevin Foster
(Chief Operating Officer East Sussex County Council), Leigh
Whitehouse (Executive Director of Resources Surrey County
Council). Mike Lea, Assistant Director of Business
Operations, highlighted the following:
- The swift transition from an office-orientated,
transaction heavy service to one capable of working
remotely
- Staff acting as volunteers to deliver equipment
to shielding colleagues
- Ambition to retain successfully adapted working
practices as business as usual
- Joint working with Audit, HR and Finance to
maintain the control environment
- Wellbeing champions, to assist teams in a
frequently changing landscape
6.2 Members
asked questions about:
- ERP and the procurement of replacement finance
systems
- Pension administration and the legacy issues
identified
6.3 Officers
responded:
- East Sussex and Surrey have each begun a
sovereign re-procurement process, while BHCC has a longstanding
programme. Each authority has its own requirements from its
finance system, but each benefits from the common support offered
by the Procurement Team which works across Orbis.
- The recent review of Pensions Administration
concluded that a single head across all three authorities was
insufficient to deliver both the strategic oversight and delivery
of change required. Therefore administration was
returned to each sovereign authority from June 2020. Traded
services returned to Surrey as the contractual holder of those
services.
6.4 The
Committee RESOLVED (1) to thank the staff for their flexibility and
commitment during the pandemic; and
(2) to note the report.
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Date of next
meeting
7.1 The
next meeting will be held on 22 January 2021.
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